Scott -

From reading your article, I think it would be useful to distinguish between two groups: (1) the political junkies that read and comment at liberal weblogs; and (2) those widely read hosts of liberal weblogs that are also active in Democratic political circles.

As to the former, they are what they are, and the rise of the net has probably only broadened the awareness of, and ability to communicate with, each other. You need to mobilize them to vote for you in elections but, as a candidate, you may not want to emphasize every one of their preferences (hence, no Democratic running on a pro-conscientous objector platform). Nothing new there.

Given their wonkishness, you correctly assess that they would much rather engage in a debate over the merits of a particular issue (e.g. universal health care) and formulate a strategy to successfully advance that issue. Conversely, they tend to be critical of unprincipled pandering (see H. Clinton - flagburning).

Their loyalty to the Democratic Party relies on the Party being able to advance these interests. When Party leaders are seen as compromising liberal interests, disappointment and criticism will ensue. In this regard, they are no different than so-called centrist Democrats (would the New Republic become dovish in the Middle East if polls showed it was crucial to a 2008 victory?).

Similarly, free-market conservatives and values conservatives seem to speak out when they feel elected Republicans are ignoring them, Reagan's commandment notwithstanding.

It really seems you are putting forth an argument to marginalize the second group - the bloggers becoming influential in Democratic political circles. Maybe you are right that they should not be managing campaign strategy. However, they are still going to be making their arguments for thousands and thousands to see. So, you are still going to have to roll up your sleeves and engage them.

Aren't you ignoring, in your piece, that the race in question occurs in CT?

Beyond the fact that there is no sillier model than the median voter one... shouldn't liberals have different standards re ideology on the basis of the state in question?

Lieberman is to the right of his Republican predecessor; that's... odd, esp. in a state that has become more Dem in Presidential elections since 1988, not less.

Additionally -- where was the analogue GOP anguish re PA 2004?

I think that you want to have it both ways. You admit that the "idealogy" of the netroots has only two real components: opposition to the Iraq war and anti-corporatist populism. Everything else is optional, depending on the situation (even reproductive freedom; see Casey in PA). While you criticize "liberalism" as being unpopular, you don't really address whether the populist anti-war position also unpopular.

If polls give any hint, I think you are wrong, and the netroots idealogy is broadly popular. People don't like the war and they don't like legislation that amounts to corporate-friendly give-aways. Tell me, why isn't that a winning position?

Hello Scott,
I read you piece in the American prospect. You are correct in your findings that netroots readers are overwellmingly liberal.
Where I disagree with you is that this will force that Democratic Party to chose an overwhelmingly liberal Presidential candidate.

You overestimate the ideological rigidity and underplay the pragmatic flexibility of the liberal activist. Netroots people are fully aware that the most liberal guy will not always make the cut or win out and we are willing to work with that. What we also know is that America can not get back to the center unless there are liberal positions and truly liberal candidates to compromise off of. You see, in the far right environment we are in now, you can't get to to center by just picking the center, you need to push to the left as much as possible and then tack back to the center as little as possible just to end up a little bit less to the right then we are now.

It's about making the political environment safe again for liberals so that we can have sensible politics again, and we really wish centrist strategists would begin to understand this. When you shoot at the left you blow up the center.

I think the netroots comparability with the larger population of the Democratic party will become apparent during the primaries.

I predict Feingold won't be much of a player as a candidate, contradicting his very high support in the netroots. And the eventual winner, whomever that is, will at best be a 2nd or more likely 3rd favorite of the netroots.

This will answer a lot of questions and focus many minds.

There seems to be a flawed conflation of data that is being used by many to discount the significance of this particular argument. Time and again I see the citation that contends that because a majority of Americans favor a withdrawal from Iraq (the latest data shows that a majority of Americans favor a withdrawal within a year), the netroots is therefore ideologically aligned with mainstream Americans. That conclusion ignores data on the left / right make-up of the voting public.

The problem is that the sentiment on the war cannot be extrapolated to conclude that a majority of Americans are aligned with the netroots...it is merely a measure of disfavor with the war...but cannot be concluded to be a fundamental leftward voter shift. It may happen in the future but the current data doesn't support that reality.

The "Hillary Meter", an ongoing Rasmussen survey that gauges her proximity to the center point of voter left / right sentiment demonstrates that she remains notably left of center. At the same time Clinton is seen to be a DLC centrist and that puts her too far right for the netroots. Therefore, one cannot reasonably conclude that the majority sentiment on Iraq...despite the fact that it coincides with netroot sentiment...will translate into a netroots defined Democratic voter majority.

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